tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post6275912667482644899..comments2023-04-29T05:42:51.520-07:00Comments on Transsexualism: A Congenital Disorder: Addendum: "Out" is third-sexSagebrushhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11210724540507720167noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-20400495021094865492012-07-01T17:19:10.574-07:002012-07-01T17:19:10.574-07:00@Sagebrush: Well, yes, you're probably right. ...@Sagebrush: Well, yes, you're probably right. I'm a bit too naive to think that by being out one can change society's prejudice.Brenda Fernándezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899491378818269770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-64615862868431041092012-07-01T16:39:12.013-07:002012-07-01T16:39:12.013-07:00@Brenda
I don't think that those who live dis...@Brenda<br /><br />I don't think that those who live discreetly perpetuate prejudices. I think they simply acknowledge that those prejudices exist and that being "out and proud" will not, in most cases, change attitudes. Mainly, it makes one a spectacle. As gorgeous as Jenna Talackova is, by being "out" she helped no one and hurt herself. She will be tagged as "Sagebrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11210724540507720167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-19047193051783488082012-06-30T00:38:44.177-07:002012-06-30T00:38:44.177-07:00@Sagebrush: I don't know what I would do if I ...@Sagebrush: I don't know what I would do if I could. Right now I can't for several reasons. Like keeping employment, not losing housing, etc. I still can't even safely go full-time, much less consider going stealth. <br />I do know that I intend to do everything to go full-time as soon as possible.<br />However I think going stealth is a selfish act. I probably shouldn't blame Brenda Fernándezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899491378818269770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-37300692134215380502012-06-25T19:34:10.787-07:002012-06-25T19:34:10.787-07:00Buenos Aires is a huge mega-city.
Once you graduat...Buenos Aires is a huge mega-city.<br />Once you graduate, it should be easy to rebuild your life discreetly, as the woman that you clearly appear to be.Reality Checkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16665992976989225664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-88349276437569070572012-06-25T11:16:26.849-07:002012-06-25T11:16:26.849-07:00@Kathryn
I don't have an answer. I understand...@Kathryn<br /><br />I don't have an answer. I understand that until proper health care is available to all people born transsexual, someone has to lobby for it. But in doing so, a person's life can be dreadfully compromised. I can't blame anyone for avoiding that.<br /><br />@Brenda<br /><br />So if you thought you could, you would do something you consider to be the most selfish Sagebrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11210724540507720167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-71631672046257693652012-06-25T01:23:18.611-07:002012-06-25T01:23:18.611-07:00I have always thought that going stealth was the m...I have always thought that going stealth was the most selfish thing a trans person could do. But then again, I'd probably end up doing it myself if my physical appearance allowed.<br /><br />If the majority of those who can just go stealth to ease things for them, and those who are out tend to be those who couldn't be stealth even if they tried to, it's not surprising that the generalBrenda Fernándezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899491378818269770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-52162356191796492732012-06-23T17:17:23.727-07:002012-06-23T17:17:23.727-07:00"People born transsexual who are public about..."People born transsexual who are public about their birth defect seem to think that being visible helps understanding. So far, that seems not to be true. I imagine it might change a few minds, but for the most part, anyone who is public is seen as a freak. The beautiful ones are called fake. The not-so-beautiful are "men in dresses." People born transsexual who are "out" Kathryn Dumkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16054997856180869508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-83713483865654067422012-05-19T05:38:56.009-07:002012-05-19T05:38:56.009-07:00@ Josie
I have to ask:
The general public will c...@ Josie<br /><br />I have to ask:<br /><br /><i>The general public will claim that they cannot take a person that goes to such great lengths to hide their <b>true</b> identity</i><br /><br />you've lost me a little?.... who exactly is your "true" identity and why/how do you hide it?<br /><br />I hid who I am once, I don't anymore and I'd advise others not to iether (didn'Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306210167880093978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-88873506339100028602012-05-16T14:46:00.571-07:002012-05-16T14:46:00.571-07:00i outed myself through stupidity, after relocating...i outed myself through stupidity, after relocating to a small town where i really didn't need the hassle.<br /><br />its true. A large number of people (mostly young males) insist on referencing my birth anatomy, despite the fact i look and act nothing like a man. Its a pain in the arse, and can quite spoil an evening. Some women, in particular, will call me 'he' when they are being flowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01125760969179071647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-44166952811428983332012-05-03T09:20:31.256-07:002012-05-03T09:20:31.256-07:00"Transwoman."
I hate that word. It'..."Transwoman."<br /><br />I hate that word. It's not really even a word. My <a href="http://waiting-for-gestalt.blogspot.com/2012/04/if-you-insist-on.html" rel="nofollow">thoughts</a> on that word...Fionnualahttp://waiting-for-gestalt.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-58157240518806307192012-05-01T14:31:29.831-07:002012-05-01T14:31:29.831-07:00Isn't the real question not whether the public...Isn't the real question not whether the public will ever accept us...but rather how can we ensure that the public accpets us without subjecting ourselves to a literal hell in the process? The general public will claim that they cannot take a person that goes to such great lengths to hide their true identity (For someone that insists on stealth) seriously, and yet if we out ourselves we will Josienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-17696509849719176722012-05-01T13:45:21.119-07:002012-05-01T13:45:21.119-07:00@Kelly
Sorry, not meaning to pile on. I welcome y...@Kelly<br /><br />Sorry, not meaning to pile on. I welcome your comments.<br /><br />I just wanted to add that this blog was established to do the very education of which you wrote. It's only one little blog in an obscure corner of the blogosphere, but its message has been consistent: transsexualism is a congenital disorder, a medical one, and people who are born with it require medical Sagebrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11210724540507720167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-18865321625954741792012-05-01T11:13:16.460-07:002012-05-01T11:13:16.460-07:00@Kelly
You won't see me use the term "tr...@Kelly<br /><br />You won't see me use the term "transwomen" (or "transmen"). Most people are either women or men, with a few who either can't figure it out or feel like both or neither.<br /><br />And there is no such thing as a "trans-separatist." There are women who were born transsexual, deal with the condition, and make a normal lives for themselves. HowSagebrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11210724540507720167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-10493999803299842162012-05-01T09:05:56.975-07:002012-05-01T09:05:56.975-07:00Kelly,
I used to think and feel the same as you o...Kelly,<br /><br />I used to think and feel the same as you on these points. However, what you might come to realize as I did, is that having a medical condition which offers a cure is not something to be used as a political football. It is rather, something to seek out a treatment and cure from. Once cured, get on with your life!<br /><br />There is enough information and access toward treatment Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-18571218551176405502012-05-01T01:43:36.938-07:002012-05-01T01:43:36.938-07:00I absolutely agreed that transwomen are never seen...I absolutely agreed that transwomen are never seen as women unless their trans status is not known. This shows that the cissexual public don't believe that people who have surgically created vaginas qualify as women.<br /><br />The only way to be a woman is to be born a woman, for 99% of the cissexual public. 'Sex changes' are urban fiction. Wake up to this reality.<br /><br />Which Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16353334434231073801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-84327250017745279522012-04-27T10:32:49.623-07:002012-04-27T10:32:49.623-07:00My main fear when it comes to crime isn't the ...My main fear when it comes to crime isn't the crime itself, it's the likelihood that I'd be involuntarily outed should something happen, whether by the media or by the TG "community" looking for another poster child. I remember seeing one of the Transexual Menace people talking about what a wonderful opportunity the McDonalds thing last year was. It pissed me off, and I Fionnualahttp://waiting-for-gestalt.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-33527218802288186542012-04-26T16:22:38.917-07:002012-04-26T16:22:38.917-07:00If I ever get mugged, murdered, or even invited to...If I ever get mugged, murdered, or even invited to be a contestant on Dancing With The Stars, advance warning is hereby given: I am NOT TRANSGENDER! Never was, never will be!<br /><br />I hereby decree that the TG's have no claim to my success, failure, recovery, or death! =)<br /><br />DJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-43452798017664726212012-04-26T13:27:52.599-07:002012-04-26T13:27:52.599-07:00The problem is that all it takes is to get mugged ...The problem is that all it takes is to get mugged at random in a McDonald's, and the machine will have made a joke out of you without your consent by the time you're out of hospital.<br /><br />That "machine" is always on the prowl looking for someone to gleefully "out" you know - "Out" first, pretend not to have known it was wrong, then present their "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-25486690330468984512012-04-26T08:35:38.170-07:002012-04-26T08:35:38.170-07:00A fallacy of thinking happens to some who either d...A fallacy of thinking happens to some who either don't know where to turn for proper help and end up connecting with the TG Machine as a source of vindication and validation; or simply believe that they can alter common perceptions by exposure - I presume a bit of narcissism within.<br /><br />Either way, one who makes the decision to live 'out', calculates incorrectly that social Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-88842467797844154982012-04-25T09:57:12.668-07:002012-04-25T09:57:12.668-07:00O' Sage One!
I fear you are being too too kind...O' Sage One!<br />I fear you are being too too kind with your conjecture of it being viewed as a third sex! Alas those whom are "out" have done a really bang up job in tying all things "trans" into just a meaningless subset of homosexual. <br /><br />The irony of which is that in trying to expand what it means to be a transative woman/man they have created in the public&#Miz Know-It-Allhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573490462316887852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-89348798726399119602012-04-24T22:31:24.273-07:002012-04-24T22:31:24.273-07:00Keep in mind that in this blog, I write about peop...Keep in mind that in this blog, I write about people (and mostly women, really) born transsexual. I mention people such as those who are gender-variant only in passing. They are not the subject of this blog.<br /><br />As well, the title is intended to be more provocative than literal. I don't think those who are "out" think of themselves as a third sex. But I think others think of Sagebrushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11210724540507720167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-38930398962429366842012-04-24T20:42:44.657-07:002012-04-24T20:42:44.657-07:00The truth is they have no clue.
Absolutely none. ...The truth is they have no clue.<br /><br />Absolutely none. How could they? They are men trying go live a fantasy. Truth be told, I pity them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6103161817861988237.post-34764057757805205172012-04-24T20:38:11.025-07:002012-04-24T20:38:11.025-07:00This is a comment that was posted by a well read T...This is a comment that was posted by a well read TG activist in response to a brief 'bio' that I posted on T-Central after having quietly lived, loved and prospered within the mainstream for nearly 40years. <br /><br />I chose to make my voice heard in an effort to bring some sanity and realism to the whacky fantasies engendered by those "out" TG's formerly known as TV'sAnnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02696670919817140802noreply@blogger.com